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ARE EXPECTATIONS UNREALISTIC?
ARE YOU TREATED AS IF YOU ARE BELOW THE AVERAGE ASSOCIATE?
Being an Unloader,an I.C.S. associate or an I.C.S. Team Leader means nothing to the management staff. They are like all the rest of the staff. You are considered the lowest form of life at the store. You are expected to clean up after everyone there. The other associates come into the back, drop off their garbage and walk away expecting you to clean it up. They leave their freight everywhere, and then expect you to find it. Management expects you to do management work so they don't have to, plus maintenance work, plus department manager work, plus stock associate work, plus anything else they can think of, plus get your own work done, then if you don't finish YOUR work, then they call you up to the office and tell you that you are getting a warning or a coaching for unsatisfactory work performance. On top of it all, you complain about how the trucks you recieve are unsafe to unload and you are told that you are being unrealistic, even though getting hit on the head by a bundle of ice chippers blade first is unrealistic. How about when during an unload, you pull a box off the top like you are suppose to and the whole wall of freight falls on top of you leaving cuts and bruises and hopefully your life. Are these expectations unrealistic? HELL YES! And lets not forget about the pay you recieve. I am positive that they plan this to keep you under the poverty line to make sure you keep putting up with all this crap. I am a Canadian and I have recently left the world of Walmart behind me. So don't think that all the problems with this company is just in the States.
I have a question about bringing legal action on walmart for an incident that happened to my husband while he was unloading the truck. Actually this has happened more than once, just not to this extent usually they are lighter objects,but objects none the less, what happened was a box with a full size filing cabinet fell on his upper back, injuring his neck and head because it fell directly on his spinal cord. Now they took him to the emergency room, and they gave him some pain killers and put his neck in a brace, but took it off when he was released. He has been having consistent headaches and has been to the hospital twice since the injury about headpain (injury occured on Feb. 20th 2006) workers comp however will not compensate him because their doctor signed a release for him to go back to work. I DONT THINK SO he is in pain..... If there is anyone who has any advice as to what I should pursue in this matter please let me know and leave a comment.
Thank you in advance,
Naomi
Yeah, I agree. Working conditions are very unsafe as an unloader and getting injured is very easy. The main problem I see is the way they "pack" (ok, throw) the items in the truck. A lot of time there is no specific order. So when you are taking stuff out (jumping up to get items thrown on top so the rest doesn't fall on you) you find many items that can't even be sold because they are squished by other items. Liquids are leaking and ruining other products. Some of the boxes even come empty or missing items (talk about SHRINK). Well I believe we should also get paid better. Not only are we constantly working for the full shift (lifting items and sorting them; which can get very heavy), we also are subject to extreme heat (mainly on the truck where it can easily get over 100 degrees on a NORMAL day. We are then subject to doing other people's jobs and fixing their mistakes if we are done unloading. Overall I think we deserve better working conditions and better pay, as we are doing something most other people aren't willing to do.
yeah its the same everywhere! unloaders are the sepic tank of walmart besides the heat and in an enclosed area;and other peoples overstock witch is suppost to be put away.what about not being allowed to go to lunch or break until your work is done(sounds like a sweatshop) then theres having to have all the freight pulled to the floor by 10:30 so you can go do stockers jop and put the freight on the shelves at a lower rate of pay than stockers.
To Naomi, Did your husband get any xrays? What happened to me was back in 1997 I was getting a case of snowboots out of overstock and the(the case was huge) case fell on the top of my head, they tolk me to the company doctor he said maybe whiplash,gave painkillers and go back to work,never had an xray at the time. Never hurt my neck since then. Fast forward to last year a faimily member was attending medical school and needed people to pratic xrays on,and his teacher called me to come into the office asked if I had ever injured my neck because at one point I had broken my neck and vertabres 3+4 where fused together. Get a lawyer!
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Hello all. My name is Sam, and I am an unloader for a supercenter. Ive been looking for some way for unloaders all around to get together and stand up against this tyranny. Ive called home office, and to no avail.
When I first was hired, I was working weeks that would exceed 75 hours!! yet....they considered me part-time so I wouldnt get my benefits.
I have to expect to get injured everyday I work. I throw truck a lot, and the loading of GM trucks never improves, despite photographs taken of the trucks, which have been "discarded" by management I believe.
Cases of paint can fly down from the top and hit you in the head. Florescent light bulbs are busted everywhere. Broken cases of salsa are hidden, so you reach into the boxes, and get your hands cut. Kerosine sometimes comes in busted containers. The fumes make us sick. Management tells us to throw the truck in shifts. Once one thrower gets sick, we replace him, and so on.
There has to be way we can all do something. Im tired of being treated as the mule of walmart. I mean, all other associates can always get breaks on time, go home on time.....but us, were the only ones who seem to break a sweat in the WHOLE company.
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OK some Walmart stores need new or better equipment.For example a new or a better rolling line would be nice to unload the trucks,we have the same unloading line since day one since they open the store and now is breaking apart,there is 3 sections of the line and some legs are bent so the boxes gets stuck or fall to the floor because the rolling line sucks plus it slow us down that means take longer doing the truck so the whole unloading process will be slow,also we need more new pallet jacks throw the old yellow ones away we don't use them, they only going to be in the way taking space or at least fix them,do a pallet jack make over hook them up or just throw them away.We need better docks plate to unload the trucks,i hate when a pallet gets stuck because the dock plate suck,sometime the pallet get stuck so bad that it take a half a hour playing with it to realize that the only way to get the pallet out from the plate is by using the power pallet jack or even the walking stacker.Another thing keep the backroom clean and clear,people throw your garbage away don't leave your shopping carts full of garbage bags and just leave it to someone else.We need the back\room clear for pallets we need room to move.So the store need to STOP being cheap and supply us with better equipment, you want us to unload faster? supply us with better equipment and just don't send anybody to unload trucks unloading trucks requires energy and strength you have to be on the move,is a good job to lose weight and STOP sending the crazy people to the back to unload i don't get pay extra for babysitting,no more slackers and people whining for no reason using any excuse or "issue" just to slack.Not to be mean but if you can't hang as a unloader then push carts or become a cashier.Is not fair that "management" are alaways sitting in their behinds while we have to struggle just to get the job done,we are not asking to make everything paradise we only want or need to work in comfortable and better conditions.Oh another thing please don't send a women to do a man's job [[[no offence ladies]]]but the last thing we need is distraction,jealousy and competition amongst each other bragging and showing off just to impress her especially if you already have a wife,trust me the worst thing is dating a person at walmart or that works in the same place.OH for management stop saying that we the unloaders are the "heart" or the center of the store don't try to blame us for everything that goes on in the store,is not our fault do not use us as the scapegoat and tell the overnight crew to stop slacking and stop bringing pallets to the back with a note saying dept so and so this pallet hasn't been touch yet or is not work and bring back about 4 more overstock pallets,is more pallets that we have to bring to the floor the next day wasting time and energy for what? to see them again the next night.anyway is anybody there???????? i hope im not the only one with this issues.By the way store 2146 and worldwide.
I concur and can relate to everything said in this blog almost on a daily basis. the day to day life of an unloader isnt a pretty one.
hm.. where shall i start. a typical day starts out by moving out the line, dropping down the pallets(supposedly its already supposed to be set up for us before we get there,ha what a joke), usually clearing out a bunch of shit thats not supposed to be there and shouldve been done earlier in the day or the night before by someone else. Our department is constantly short handed (within the last week they prob hired 6 new people, none of them unloaders, go figure)after setting up we practically have to beg management for extra help (3 people to unload a 1900 piece truck? get real) as the day progresses and we're in the middle of a truck we;ll hear over the intercom " all unloading associates to the parking lot to push carts" are you fuckin kidding me? lol.
usually how our routine goes is the first 4 hours we unload, go to lunch, then pull freight to the floor the last 4. The other day it was around 7:15-7:20 and we were just about finished, management comes back and tells us we got 10 mins to finish then we got to go push carts, wtf. last time i checked my title is receiving associate, not a cart pusher. but we're given unrealistic times to finish our job to go do someone elses ( gotta love walmart).
just about the time for lunch we'll get an unexpected grocery,frozen dairy, or remix truck which usually has anywhere from 20-30 pallets( oh well, so much for lunch) at this point ive usually lost my appetite anyways. by the time we're done with that it's about 8:40 (almost a good hour past our scheduled lunch time). by the time we get back there's usually a mess everywhere and all kinds of shit in our way that people from other departments have left, and all the good jacks stolen. now comes the fun part, we get to take the freight to the floor! yippy!
we start by hauling heavy pallets of freight, playing the dodge game all night with rude people who refuse to move, little kids who seem to think its a mcdonalds jungle gym, rude employees from other departments who leave their carts in the middle of the aisle with no regard and give us shit about the way we left the pallets or the way theyre stacked.
after break our crappy jacks are stolen( even when we try to hide them they still get jacked), we have to go hunt down the whole store to find some good ones, then its back to some more good ole walmart fun. at this point most of the gm freight has been pulled, now we get to pull the 2000 lbs dog food back stock...and hear the employees in pets whine about it...yes!!!!! what a fun filled night. by the time all the freight has been pulled its clean up time ( god i love cleaning up other peoples mess after a hard days work). if we happen to finish early before our shift ends, we get the joy of pushing carts, paper and chemicals, and pets, basically everyone elses job.
this is the day in the life of a receiving associate at walmart, and this is just the tiny tip of the iceberg. sorry about the long rant but had to get it off my chest.
I agree that job codes should be enforced but back to my point, it is just another job.. I have had to help unload trucks before when I was a service writer/cashier/floor associate, it was a pretty demanding job but you know what your job is.. Not everyone should have to go outside a push carts but when they are short handed and alot of customers have came in, they need all the help they can get.. I do agree that a better system and equipment should be in place but you have to voice your concerns, grass roots and open door, not in the tone of crying and complaining but serious concerns.. The unloaders where I work, do not help downstack anymore for us overnighters, they do not pull any freight out that isn't GM, they do not pull out pets, the are asked to help in paper goods and sometimes help with the soda pop and water aisles but they refuse to help pull meat/produce, dairy/frozen, make bales so who wins here, no one, it is a team effort.. I, myself pull the two mentioned trucks almost every night, go out at around 3:30 am to do the buggy roundup, downstack grocery pallets, make bales, and work in whatever department needs help when ever I am finished with my new freight and rarely get to do the backstock but I do my job and do it well, without crying and complaining..
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I work at Wal-Mart store 3282 as a unloader. For two years I put up with shitty ass unloaders that are lazy ,slow ,always taking a shit , or always missing helping people in other departments that there is no one in,talking on the phone, That come in pissed off before they do anything, Some unlades call me lazy but sit on the line and complain about the work we got to do for halfandhour or more then bail out and leave when the works not done at 1:00am then I’m there until about 4:00am in the morning to finish up then the time I go to bed I’m lucky to sleep 6to7 hours or less and the stupid people that left me don’t got to work the next day so why cant they stay a little longer. We also have shitty equipment to.
They just change the rules for us now we can only stay 8 hours at work if were done or not done we stop and clock out then leave even if shits on the truck still or in the back room.
Then the first night we had to leave a ton of shit in the back room they said well you can stay over time just cut the time the next night that’s almost like working for free.
so I now leave every night at 1:00am no matter what if I cant keep that over time fuckthem.
We also got to work stocking,carts,meat depermant,bagging,running registers,
softlines,hardware,housewares,pretty
much we work the whole fucking store because there’s no one in are store but cart pushers and cashiers and deli people.
And response to the unloader that unloaded a 1900 piece truck that's not that much we pray for that much or less. Try 3500 pieces 3 unloaders or less. we have a total of 5 unloaders. so were screwed if someone gets sick,callsoff, or other things.
And if you don’t know where my store is its in Logan, Ohio
That’s about all I can write about now.
I work in as an unloader at store# 2236 and I agree with most of the stuff here. Every wednesday and friday we usually ahve 2 GM trucks,saturday,monday and thursday we just have 1 GM truck and EVERY night problably two remixes. I've been told we have one of the smallest back rooms in all of walmart... so go figure. We have NO room to work with, we are forced to break rules like blocking fire exits, and blocking off other paths with pallets. We even have to use the space next to personel to put the pallets. We had to put like 20 pallets of potting soil and molch ect. from garden center in the back of the store because we have no room for it, we also curently have 13 pallets of salt sitting outside receiving. we've had countless ambassadors tell us to fix this problem but we cant because we have no room! Everytime I store use water and ice for the truck my store manager says "i dont see any sweat yet you dont need that". We are ALWAYS short handed when unloading a truck, and half the people dont do ANYTHING. Then i have a girl from paper goods who always comes back to help with the truck because she knows she can use her cell phone back there. She also always changes the radio station to rap and r&b and bitches when i put rock on, when its not even her back room. I always feel like im picking up slack for people, but i always work hard to try and get everything done because thats just how i am, i got exceeds on all 3 opf my evaluations. I'm glad my hard work is noticed by ONE of the assistants. What i hate most is when im throwing the truck in 100 degree's and NOONE will push the line for me, and then a manager has the nerve to say "what wrong, cant keep up??" I can EASILY keep up with the line if people acctually came and pushed it for me, i cant do both. ANYONE who throws the truck will agree. I've came to realize that the GM trucks and Remixes will never EVER be loaded properly and i can live with that. But when a quarter of the items on the truck are broken or missing... please dont blame the unloaders, blame the people who put glass items on the top row, or put 20 bags of dog food on a 42" vizio plasma tv. I think its a pretty good idea to have 2 no truck nights, but WHY IN THE WORLD DO WE HAVE TO UNLOAD TWO TRUCKS IN ONE NIGHT INSTED? please please please just let us unload a truck on a no truck night insted of giving us 2 trucks the day after. It makes no sense at all to me. Half of our pallet jacks dont work, our walkie stacker is dieing. Another thing is, i work part time and only get one 15 minute break, why is it ok for the assistant managers to have a smoke break every 30 minutes?... The thing i utterly hate the most is how they cant keep the cart pushers, and they always let them have the weekend off because they are always crybaby little kids. So the unloaders are forced to do the carts when there are none. In the CSM job discription it states that when there are no cart pushers, you are responsible for them. Ive hung up the phone countless times on our csm because she asked me me to do carts while i was unloading a truck OH HAHA HERES ANOTHER ONE... You guys get 50 calls for a carry out while your unloading a truck? we do! Why cant people from the departments do this? They dont have to log their work on a telxon, we have to start and stop our truck ont he telxon every single time, even remixes. Should we pause it everytime theres a carryout? We'd get yelled at if we did, but its the RIGHT thing to do. The thing i love about being an unloader is that its easy to slack off, and when i say this i mean in a good way. If you get done what your told quick, you can find something else to do thats easy like making a bale, finding empty pallets, condense pallets ect. The managers dont really bother us while we unload the truck, and when theres no truck they give us a list of things to do, then they leave us alone. Good luck guys.
I just no hear at 3546 in new milford ct that are support manger for the back room doesn't like us helping anyone out because they don't help us out so why should we help them out we have the prob with cart pushing sometimes too there ask us to push carts I just walk by them and ignore them as for the 8-9 hour lunch even if we aren't done yet I make sure I take my lunch today we had a 900 and a 1395 easy truck we have 2 new people and 3 others that been there pass a year including me we set up for the truck at 4 when we get there start sometimes around 5 and then today we were done at 845 i make sure if the boss isn't there we take are brakes at the right time and go to lunch at the right time NO OVER TIME MEANS NO OVER TIME over time = working for free at wal mart why would you stay later then you have too ?
To the one Anonymous guy,i wouldn't cry either if i was you, sounds like a cake walk at your store. Must be nice...
pr200669.. Nail on the head. Your post should be on a gold obelisk in every receiving!
There's a phrase at our store: "If you want it done right, ask an unloader."
Just out of curiousity, I popped in to see what happened during the day. My suspicions were realized.. department managers had ICS on short leashes doing their work when they should have been taking care of bins.. floor associates (though knowledgable) socializing in the action alleys. In all.. little to no freight being worked.
That kinda explained why the back room is always full when we unloaders come in to start our day.
To top it off, the night crew is a very thin lineup of depressed people who think the sun is evil. These pasty folks are grumpy and weren't posted for their people skills. There's some good ones though, and they're easy to spot. They're the ones who don't start sobbing/stabbing at the arrival of a new pallet.
Woe be to the ONE lone person in furniture... cherish these days when your discs are still UN-herniated.
Enough about the night crew... they make me sad.
Management is hit and miss too. There's some good ones that make a point of providing an extra body should someone call in sick. Then there's the acorns.. you know.. the ones who stare directly into the half-full truck and ask: "Is the truck done yet?" Nothing is more inspiring in a leader than obliviousness. That may not even be a word, but that's the only way to describe some of those lost leaders.
Management: there's a thing called an "unload calculator". If the unloaders are behind the target, MANAGE them to catch up. If they are NOT behind the target.. then STFU and bring us our pizza!
As a fellow unloader(store 1426), it seems that our job load has gotten even heavier as of late. At my store, they are making us unload all of our GM trucks, all of our Grocery trucks and downstack all of the food pallets from GM and Grocery by aisles just so the OverNight Stockers that are in grocery will not have to do their jobs fully and will not complain. They still complain even though half of their workload was cut out by the Unloading crew. We also have to do ALL of the picks for all of the departments every night also. It seems like every night we only have 7-9 people on the crew IF we are lucky and that management expects us to always have everything done by 1a.m.. It is such an unrealistic predicament and I would wish they would make it a safer work environment, allow everyone the use of back braces, require the GM trucks to be loaded palletized instead of having freight spewn about everywhere, have an actual working line that doesn't rip your clothes to shreds, have better nicer management that cared about the safety and well-being of the employees rather than the profits they make and having the trucks unloaded on time and everything else done, and wish Wal-Mart could revert to the days of Sam Walton. It saddens me, but ever since he passed away, Wal-Mart corporation has been going down hill and nobody up high or store management wise cares about the associates anymore. We are all just a form of cheap labor when we should be making Roughly $20 an hr due to the hazardous work environment but most of us are only making $8 an hour if we are lucky.
i'm an ICS 2nd shift instock lead. It turns out that if you're not a lazy piece of crap (unlike most of my crew) you can easily hit over 100% efficiency on a nightly basis and have fun doing it. It might be uncommon that my crew is capable of doing this, reguardless of our particular crew being understaffed for our area, but if you believe that your crew is the bottom-feeding scum of wal-mart you will be treated as such. My crew on the other hand doesn't need the approval of management or myself to work hard and complete tasks to do what is asked of them. It only sucks to be an unloader if you want it to suck. Grow up and get your work done and accept responsibility that is expected of you. I'm sorry if you have an ICS lead that is ill informed and cant manage properly, but you should find his or her errors and improve upon those lacking points.
Our schedule usually goes:
4pm- set up
*4:15- start unloading
*5:30/6- finish truck(s)
half go to break
half start breakpacks/downstacking grocery
*8pm- other half goes to lunch, first half finishes everything up, possibly work freight for a few departments
*8:30- 2nd half clocks in from lunch and takes 1st :15, 1st half clocks out for lunch.
*9pm- Pull freight
*10pm- evening meeting
*10:15- start picklists
*11:30- finish picklists, start working papergoods and chemicles
*12:15- finish paper and chem, take last :15, go home with 150%+ on scorecard.
Why do the rest of you suck at your jobs so much? :o
I love how all of these people complain while they are in situations that I would give my left X to be in.
We have 3 unloaders, including myself. Yet, we still manage to finish 2100 piece GM trucks, 16 pallet grocery trucks and 6 pallet FDD trucks. And that is usually be 10. Then we do anywhere from 2-6 pallets worth of #16 break-packs. And we never complain.
I am ics 4-1. We have 7 unloaders and 4 ics. Most of the time it's me and one other person trying to do everything. Our telxons barely work, we do the dept managers job instead of ours, we have no management support and since were so understaffed we usually help unload the truck, too. Our unloaders take half hour breaks and run away if they are asked to help us with our 1000-plus nightly picks. We rarely have more than 1 overnight ics, and some days not even that. Still, we usually manage to get 100 percent. On days it's just me, I get 70-80 percent. Take pride in your work and sincerely talk to management about your issues. It still sucks but there's no need for all the whining
I am a girl unloader in a supercenter... I get paid $9.70/hr. Our store provides water bottles for us on hot days, we get 20 minutes breaks (at least), and on a good night we are pretty much left alone. We have 5-9 people on any given night, and we have never gone home without everything being done. Our support manager acts as a buffer for the Managers' unreasonable demands, and we're treated pretty well. Overnighters bitch if they have to help pull (even though we help stock), Asst. Managers make stupid demands (and other general bullshit), and I go home every night covered in bruises and such, but that's part of the job. We earn what respect we have by getting the job done every night (whether it's 5 people or 9).
Our store has an all female management staff. I really enjoy it when any of our hot single female managers comes out back and tries to talk tough. WOW!! This is the best Walmart I have ever worked at. We're really motivated here. We once got an 1800 piece truck done in 45 minutes.
Anyone get the new dress code mandate from corporate office yet? For us, it is collared navy blue shirts and tan-dark brown khakis, excluding departments already with a uniform policy in place, i.e. Vision Center, Pharmacy etc. During hot weather this policy is allowed to be modified by Garden Center Associates and cart pushers (shorts are allowed for them), NOT unloaders. Does the idiot making these changes know what the assembly line and freight will do to the material of khakis, not to mention the amount of dirt and about to claimed out liquids from the truck? Don't get me started on being made to wear our name badges while we unload the truck.
As for actual unloading and the conditions we are forced to do said job under, keep in mind I am probably mentally unstable, but I like my job. We normally have 4 people to unload truck on any given day, we consider ourselves lucky if management takes their collective heads out of their asses and gives us 1 more to make 5. Before the new 'system' started, we had, on any given day, 5 unloaders and 2-3 ICS, the job was pretty much unload GM truck, then do whatever odds and ends we could to help out before lunch then pull freight after lunch and then odds and ends again. Since we were given our whopping .20/hour raise to be part of this wonderful new system ($8.00/week before taxes) we have lost ICS help, our staff which once was 8-9 total full time unloaders is now 6 unloaders (5 full time and 1 part timer 2-3 days a week) and an IMS lead who is worthless and was working sporting goods before her job in the back room. Of the 4 people, 2 days a week there are 3, we are now responsible for unloading GM truck, break packs, pulling freight, picklists, making bales, setting up the back room so we can unload trucks and depending on which Asst. Mgr. is working, make sure that manager's department is squared away or just getting pulled off of unloading or pulling freight to the floor (you know, what we are supposed to be doing) to do whatever they see fit.
As for those of you lucky enough to have a decent staff (at least 5 people daily) I am happy for you and those of you who are just so much better than the rest of us I am sure there is a I run through the meadowed fields of walmart.com website for you to gallop through. 7 unloaders and 4 ICS, yeah, you've got it tough.
The best part of this is the whole 'Voice your concerns to management' part. They are quick to use terms like safety, teamwork and my personal favorite management involvement. Usually when we get in at 4, the room isn't setup and the dock door is still locked and if by some miracle a manager comes back to open the door before 4:30, they see what we are facing and get the hell out of dodge so they don't have to be bothered with us asking for help or keys to the power equipment, which is usually left in the way and we don't don't hear a peep from them until 10:00 when 3rd shift punches in and its time to jump our shit for not being done yet. On average here, it takes management at least 15-20 minutes to answer a call for ANY kind of help from ANY associate, whether it be a trash unlock, door unlock, get a garvey or telxon etc etc.
Bottom line, ALL Wal-Mart workers, that don't have the word manager in their title, are victims of the shitty economy and they know it and they are going to make it is as miserable as they can to work there.
I've been an unloader for 9 months now and its always the same crap. Come in, clean up other peoples mess, unload very unsafe trucks and doing it as fast as possible so you can do someone elses job. But the worst thing is when you need about 8 people to do the job right, but every time you have more than 3 unloaders, management assumes its too much and calls at least 2 guys to do carts when there is already cart pushers actively working with a full dock of carts at the store. Which happens often.
Store 9932 is redefining Walmart's unloading standard. 4 unloaders + 2 trucks +/-3500 pieces = to be done by 8pm. So far so good, none of us has lost our jobs. Stress? What is stress?? Unloaders do not have stressful jobs??? Management says if we want to know what stress is we should try doing their jobs for a day.
I worked at a Wal-Mart Supercenter in Woodstock, GA. When I started, we had a very nice supervisor that worked with us and stood up for us against managements insane demands (Biggest store in state, 2 trucks a day was the norm, 1 hour max to unload a truck--even though every day we had at least 1 case of "messy, sticky _____ spilled in the truck). People were still treated very poorly and we went from having about 8 unloaders a night to 3-4. Our supervisor was fired for his "attitude" problem and a 50 year old female (who happened to be the ICS Supervisor) was his replacement. She absolutely detested unloading as it "wasn't what she was hired for"(even though she had been our supervisor working with us the 2 days our fired supervisor was off). 2 people got moved to grocery unloading (which was already overstaffed) because they could not get along with her. They hired TWO more people, leaving us with an average of 2-3 people a night, and usually we got help from people that worked in other parts of the store that didn't know what the **** they were doing.
After about 2 months of this, I came in one night and I was by myself, with 2 trucks totalling over 4,000 pieces, and after 30 minutes of them calling in someone to help me(I was unloading this truck bymyself, and sorting it too, LOL) I just left. Walked out, gone, bye bye.
Fuck WalMart.
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i used to be an overnight stocker for walmart at the covina #2292 store out in california.the unloaders there and the overnighters pretty much got along.and yes we worked together very well.it did not matter who pulled freight or who stocked.to us work was work and so long asit killed time and pallets and got us closer to clocking out and going home who gave a shit.form an overnighter to all unloaders,i am not blowing smoke up your asses or kissing up;but it is true,you guys and girls on the line do not get enough credit and probably never will with the status quo fucking up things in walmart.the problem is management and always will be.management`s unreasonable demands are the main thing that causes friction between associates and fingers get pointed in the wrong direction.and,management likes it that way when unloaders and overnighters and other associates come to blows when the work load is overwhelming.after all it is management that gets trigger happy with the telxon/gemini ordering what the store does not need and these assholes in management do not care.and if management hates a particular assosciate or associates,then the singling out process starts as the constructive termination process begins.they will set you for termination,wait a few weeks then call you into the office and fire you for some stupid reason or another.you will know it when your work load suudenly increases exponentially and you no longer get help either in your department or for what it is you do as an unloader.if it was not for unloaders that unload the truck who would then do it?management?do not make me laugh.
I just started on as an unloader in... afraid to give out where (i'm already VERY paranoid). The first couple of days were hard, but i fealt good about it. For some reason, the palce is rubbing me the wrong way. Something about the attitudes of the unloaders, and the store it'self. There's a bit of sarcasm comming from all directions. Us unloaders bust our sorry asses for ungreatful stockers... well, most of them are ungreatful. The other night a stocker commented on how us unloasers are a bunch of "fuckers, especially the new ones". That really gave me motivation to not give a flyin' fuck about anyone but me and the new unloaders (four of us in all). The managers come to the back and crack the whip at us for not being fast enough on the trucks. I have no choice but to work there, as does everyone else there. I'm trying to get the hell out. I'm a hard worker, but get no recognition for busting my ass. I mean, I don't want to get fired, but I have no motivation to work extra hard like they want us to, just enough not to get fired. I dunno, There's got to be more to life than this... good luck to everyone reading this. I hope you all find something more than this hellhole... God bless.
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is it common to have more then one shift? like at my store we are the only unloaders there the whole day. yesterday we only had 4 people show up, 4 pm, we set up the back room which consists of pulling everything out of the steel and putting in appropiate places dropping pallets and pulling line in 4 30 we start unloading a 2200 piece truck. it was 95 degrees yesterday ....... my supervisor asked management to send some people back to help, and asked, and asked again. with no reply or we will find someone. a manager walks through to check on us i was throwing im not gonna lie i was completly drained from the heat. i was told to work fster my supervisor over heard and asked when are we getting someone to help us he got a reply do your job that your supposed to do and let me worry about that. my supervisor said am doing my job and cody (me) is throwing just fine he was threatened to go to the office. after that we went to lunch. we came back and immediately 2 guys started on picks, a new policy at our store is that the picks have to be done 100 percent is this true everywhere? and that left me and one other to pull freight. after we finished that we had to sock water cola nad make a plastic bail, and were called to the front to help customers with tvs and such and also we have yet a nother new policy every night around midnight a unloader has to walk around the back of the store outside and pick up trash????? i am a truck unloader my hours are from 4pm to 1am ......... i have not goten off at 1 but maybe 4 times in the last 2 months i dont know what to do if we start to talk to the managers about it we get told to shut it they dont want to hear it..... we have a saying at our store to................ reward hard work with more hard work please respond
Ok, I work as an unloader, my pay is $8.90 and all I can say is that the pay absolutely sucks for what we do. We do our work plus anything else that the managment sees fit. The funny thing is, the management knows that we are completly aware of this. They reward us at least once a month with a lunch of pizza or something. It's like they are trying to appease us for fear of all of us quitting. We do get respect from them managment but not from anyone else (exept for the lovely ladies who stock on the GM side, just love them amd maybe a couple of the stock pickers). We are the bitches of wally world. I don't dislike the managers, I hate the brass, the "culture", and the fact that wal mart is so big and has destroyed small town america and independent buisnesses. Low pay, long hours, oh and did I mention injuries. I have already gone to the doctor for chronic blistering only to find out that I have athlete's foot. I have already used up all of my call-ins beacuse I couldn't walk. The pay is not worth the physical pain I have already gone through. I called in to go to the doctor, and explaineed the situation. I got the bitch manager. I said that I would get a note from the doctor, and that I could barely walk. she said something like "well, you know that doctor's notes are not accepted, so you should come in and suck it up"... suck it up? What the hell does she know about sucking up? she is a god damned manager, she just bosses people around all day, how the hell painful is that? Why they keep her hired is beyond me.
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- Over all this is so true.
I am an Unloader, and everything from the job, to the line, the trucks, the people, it's generally a hellish mix up. Sometimes you have a decent crew but you have 2-3 trucks over half the days out of the week.
I remember when only 4 of us unloaders had a 3,000 piece truck, and half of us were on the edge of overtime and went home early. You work probably the most physically demanding job. Luckily you don't have to worry about the constant nag of customers till the second half of the day, but after a while it feels like it might be worth it.
Little kids on friday nights running around. People on bikes and scooters, and adults stepping in your way to get your attention while you haul something as massive as a 3.5k pound pallet of a stack and a half of salt. Throwing you body in the way and bracing yourself so that you don't tip the sucker over, or run both of you down.
People always complaining and moaning. Everything can always be left for the Next shift. Which is usually the Unloaders shift.
Some days it works out great. Good managers, good people, the work gets done, the truck isn't to hellish. We get done early, chill and then help some other people out and are given thanks and appreciation.
Some days that One god aweful manager comes in and complains about name tags, shirt color and if it is clean or fits right ( Not that it isn't going to get smudged to hell from the grimy boxes ), Your short handed and you are yelled at for the truck being behind schedule. People are worked so fast that their stacking is horrid and you get 7 foot pallets that have to be shrink wrapped just so they have a chance to make it to the floor. Then one of our bosses tells us to get our ass our of the warehouse and not to waste time shrinking these pallets. And we spend more time cleaning up the fallen mess on the sales floor and barely evading injuring people than the minute it would have taken to secure the pallet.
The job isn't worth min wage of 7:25. But most jobs arn't.
On the bright side... It is exercise, it is not taxing on the thought process, and it can help shield you from social customers.
my name is sam and i am a i.c.s worker at a walmart in humble texas and i agree with most of the comments on this board.but in my case the management staff in my store take the term "strict" to a whole new level.I swear i have never felt in my life so worthless,degraded and put-down just by the way i am being spoken to.I was written up and got a d-day for cursing in a gm receiving area i wasnt directing it towards anybody i was talking to myself (venting) and a manger literally jumped on the opportunity to send my ass to the office. where i was interrogated about nonsense.i was being talked to like i was 9 years old and im 21 at the same time i told them my situation with my so called "open door" so i told them i was homeless and barely squeezing by and it was FUNNY to them they laughed in my face and said if you cant do your job just type (i cant perform my job) into the computer
i pride and value my job
but i will not be treated like a ingrate
my message to you unloaders
dont take that crap from upper management
my name is sam and i am a i.c.s worker at a walmart in humble texas and i agree with most of the comments on this board.but in my case the management staff in my store take the term "strict" to a whole new level.I swear i have never felt in my life so worthless,degraded and put-down just by the way i am being spoken to.I was written up and got a d-day for cursing in a gm receiving area i wasnt directing it towards anybody i was talking to myself (venting) and a manger literally jumped on the opportunity to send my ass to the office. where i was interrogated about nonsense.i was being talked to like i was 9 years old and im 21 at the same time i told them my situation with my so called "open door" so i told them i was homeless and barely squeezing by and it was FUNNY to them they laughed in my face and said if you cant do your job just type (i cant perform my job) into the computer
i pride and value my job
but i will not be treated like a ingrate
my message to you unloaders
dont take that crap from upper management
I am a 4-1 unloader in Pennsylvania and don't take anyones shit even if it is a member of management. I make $7.80 an hour and believe me when I say unloaders are the scum of walmart. The open door policy is a joke, I muttered to myself some vulgarity and management jumped on it and wrote me up. Nothing was directed towards anyone and I was talking to myself. Next day management comes to the back room and screams two curse words to 7 unloaders. Needless to say "SHE" was never written up for vulgarity or even questioned. My store manager treated me like a 5 year old over me muttering a comment. Said I didn't do my job and my immediate supervisor stood up for me and said I did an outstanding job. WALMART is the worst employer i have ever dealt with, I can not wait to get injured on the job I will be filing a lawsuit for sure.
I'm an unloader at 2051 in Arizona, and I have to say that we're pretty much the combination special forces/ insane asylum there. On average, we have enough to do the job, and most of us downright kick ass at it. We go through two GM, one or two remix, one or two FDD and often have time left at the end of the night.
Sure, we've got our bad managers, but even they've kinda learned to steer clear of us *cackles*. Really, the only issue we have is scheduling, and that just means getting the retards away from the computer and letting the SMART managers do it... Someone pass me a crowbar please? Anyways, I make about $11.60 an hour, and I bust my ass doing it. But... We're not expected to die in there, and we dont.
wow this iscrazy . im also an ICS assosciate 4 to 1 shift at a supercenter , and after reading through these posts it would seem that all the things that are happening at the store i work , that i thought was only happenening here,is happening everywhere else . its a rally crappyjob where everythingis constantly being dumped onto unloadrs like myself . and we ar given new things to do everyday , sstill given the same amount of time to work with even more tasks as before . also on several occasions i have been told that i "had" to take a short lunch in order to finish the job , and that i "had" to stay later and couldnt leave till the job was done . im pretty sure this is illegal
This is specifically to WAL MART in CLay NY located on Route 31. Assistant manager Mike is the worst manager ever. Treats everyone like shit. WERE SICK OF IT. Why do they keep all the lazy ass people and try to get ride of the hard working people. We bust our ass for a lousy dollar. Asst. MIKE I hope your career ends soon just like all the hard working men and women you get rid of. Your a piece of shit. You yell at associates right on sales floor in front of costumer have some dignity and take them to the office. He has no heart and really needs to be FIRED for his actions. Will never happen tho because managers stick up for managers. Sorry for the language but it feels good to get out.
I also work at Walmart on Route 31 in Clay. Your right he is a very bad manager. He makes everyone feel like dirt and he is "GOD". I got news for you there is one GOD and u aint it.
There is no GOD at Walmart... only Zhuul! I go to physical therapy so I can continue surviving Walmart unloading after ten years of it. I am one of three ultra-fast unloaders that no one else can keep up with. Call me old school, but if you get the job done fast, you can fool around later. All the other guys are unhappy and jealous and don't last long because our store is firing anyone who doesn't meet task management expectations.
After 5 years of unloading, my body is going downhill. I can still get the job done faster than any other guy on the team and they won't fire me, or transfer me. They say I make too much money and they're trying to make me quit. $12 per hour is not a liveable wage with the mega-inflation going on right now. When I walk in at 4 some describe me as a walking corpse and by the end of my shift overnighters complain that I have an evil glow about me. I don't get it why people won't push themselves at work and then cry when they're getting coached. I can still get a 2000 piece truck done in a hour, 10 pallets of break packs sorted in half hour, the back room pulled in an hour, and stock the "L"; hardware, auto, sporting goods stocked by 1am.
Walmart store 2399 Manchester NH sucks. Two veterin unloaders are always giving me atitude. Im moving now, Im stresed out, and Im doing the best I can, but I not geting reconised. The other guys are funy to work with.
YOU'RE FIRED!!
Now that I have everyone's attention let me point out that after 5 years of unloading I am reduced to a McDonald's-eating Wrestlemania-loving yahoo. Pizza to me is the food of the gods. The trucks are destroying my body, the freight pulling has wrecked my heels, knees, and bent my spine. The backroom cleaning, bale wire tying, and stocking has crippled my hands. The restacking of empty pallets has strained my neck. Working the freezers all the time has irreversibly numbed my hands and arms. The rotator cuffs in both my shoulders are worn out from those STUPID SAFETY STRETCHES. But, like an undead fighter, I keep getting back up, keep showing up for work. I've even worked through stomach viruses and seasonal allergies which I've left to fate. I'm not dead yet, but I certainly feel like the walking dead. I have never been to the doctor's. I soldier through every injury and illness life throws at me. The upside, management regards me as a hero because I can meet today's tougher, stricter expectations. The downside, I have no life outside of work; I sleep like the dead.
I can't agree that management treats everyone that works the truck on Instock poorly at my store. They seem to appreciate us but a couple of our asst. mgr's use to throw trucks so they know what it's like and care how we're doing especially in the heat. We have a fresh case of water & ice in a cooler every day and they've given us ice cream quite a bit. Not that we wouldn't like more money for the job we do but at least they show some consideration. The person posting about other associates leaving freight, trash and being completely rude and inconsiderate is talking about the conditions at my store as well. Lots of pigs work the floor at my Walmart. very few pick up after themselves and while I think they should do better I can't believe mgmnt doesn't crack down on the lazy jerks.
Management at our store has changed. They used to listen to us, but not anymore. They're indifferent towards good workers and bad workers, but they are rewarding new-hires and anyone who's been with the company for more than two years are being terminated over complete and made-up lies. The new lead we got is refusing to work with us even though the person knows we're understaffed. And the person is holding the absolute 1000-piece per hour company standard over our head. We've already been blanket-coached once, and the person is not letting up. None of the higher-ups wants to hear it of course. I have begun selling all of my material possessions and will disappear off into the horizon since I know I am going to lose my job. I would no longer encourage anyone to work for Walmart even if they are desperate for work because all the new hires I've talked to have told me they were informed in orientation they will be let go after one year. Horrible company. Bad Business!
DAMN!!! IM FINNA START WORKING FOR WALMART AS AN UNLOADER and alreayd im finna quit. i aint got time for that kinda shit! fuck that... ima see how my interview goes tommorow and from there i will make my decision. i havent seen a comment aboout a baton rouge store yet, but if i stay for longer than a week, i will post one too
I work at walmart #4259 in Shelbyville Illinois as a unloader,but I only spend an hour a day in the backroom before i have to go work the whole fucking store,management is a complete joke,the store manager is in a homosexual relationship with one of the AM's,the other AM cheats on his wife and tells everyone in his little kiss ass club about it,my supervisor threatens people with his boxcutter when they criticize him on his piss poor performance(he probably beats his wife too)and he even had a new hire who was a pretty damn good worker fired because he REFUSED to work off the clock.
I've worked for Walmart in excess of 10 years and I've learned the sad truth. You have a job as long as you meet WALMART's expectations, not your's. When Walmart raises their expectations, you have to push harder at what you do, or else face termination. There is nothing you can do about it. Walmart is more powerful than the U.S. government. In a secret report Walmart did not want revealed, last year they amassed a $700-billion dollar profit in the face of a depression-era economy. How did they do it? By cutting labor hours. And they cut and reduce labor hours by passing new procedure policies designed to stress out and get their better employees terminated over trivial things that don't affect customer service.
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OCCUPY WALMART
12-03-2011
I unload trucks for walmart #4403 and we just opened 4 months ago and unloading sucks, ive had my finger bruised almost broken, multiple times i am stuck running up the line because we only have 3-4 people on the truck. i sweat from 4pm-1 am every single day, but its a job, does it suck? yeah it does, but its a paycheck honestly i love what i do, and i wouldn't change it, i have the best crew out there.
I have a bad feeling Walmart Corporate Homeoffice is going to starting terminate alot of associates, truck unloaders in particular just because they can. They don't want unloaders who've been there awhile who know the job well and can get the trucks done in a timely manner. They want low-paid cheap labor who will never get a raise, who give a lousy performance because those guys are unaware of Corporate's unreasonable illogical irrational oblivious disconnection from reality.
Seriously, our store is too small versus the freight we take in to satisfy the delusional, fantastical AP. She obviously lives in a dreamworld if she expects the trucks to be started at four when we have to pull 30 - 50 pallets out to lawn and garden everyday just to keep all three receiving rows open.
I'm preparing for the end because if I lose my job in the position I'm in now, I will never be able to find work ever again.
I work as an unloader and wanted to point out a not yet griped about problem we all face and that is poorly loaded grocery trucks true they are all palletized and just need pulled out (theoretically at least) but not a day goes by when we do not have to downstack several pallets due to bad stacking causing them to lean threatening to fall on the associate that is pulling it our store generally has one unloader doing the grocery truck while the rest are pulling out the gm freight and while it is a much smaller truck it still is more pallets pulled per employee than the gm freight not to mention that since they are already palletized (badly) we have no control of the weight several are over a ton literally and this is only after we get the gm truck unloaded adding another 6 or so pallets to grocery distribution centers really need to get on their loaders about stacking pallets for transit.
then when one does inevitably fall we get hassled for letting it happen. something has got to give
Wow, I thought it was just my store.
We used to average about 3 people a day (it's improved to 5 now), and despite having a sign on the fucking wall that indicates how it should be otherwise and district managers coming in and telling us that we should have 8-9 guys a night, we're pretty much expected to get every truck done by 6:00. Seeing as how our typical truck is about 2300, that wouldn't even mesh with the "1000 pieces an hour" standard I've been told even if everything was ready to go for us when we come in. We sometimes spend an hour cleaning up the back room and putting picks on to pallets (to do the morning crew's work for them and to trick overnight into doing theirs). But if I dare mention to management that we don't have the "standard" of 7-9 guys, or that the "standard" unloading time would have us finishing at 7:20, I get treated like I'm trying to be a smartass.
We don't get our "standard" break at 6:00 (not that I give a shit), but management bitches incessantly when we make sure to take that break later on. Our "standard" lunch at 8:00 is pushed back to whenever we finish unloading grocery and breaking it down 100% by isle (this now includes infants, paper, chemicals, etc. EVERYTHING that comes off the truck must be separated by 2 or 3 guys before they go to lunch). Recently, even our "standard" break at 11:00 (usually our first) is pushed back until we have all of the freight out, the line out, breakpacks separated (BY ISLE, for the entire store, by me, specifically, on every day I work) and the truck cleaned and closed, and a couple of other people's jobs complete for them. Essentially, we don't get a fucking break from constant manual labor until our job is complete. If I try to bring up the definition and purpose of a break? Smartass.
Regardless of all the bullshit, I like the work. I like the crew, and I even like the inept supervisors they shove on us every 3 months. The dangerously loaded trucks, lazy morning crew that is held to absolutely no standard, etc, none of that really matters. What has me looking for another job after a year of working at Walmart is management.
Management at my store has to be the biggest collection of inept, retarded assholes in existence. There is ONE guy out of a dozen or so who doesn't fit any of those descriptions. Any idea I use in the back room that improves efficiency - switching around where we palletize certain departments, for one; one of our four "areas" (we don't get enough people to use the "zones") gets about half of the freight on most days - is immediately discarded whenever they get off their asses for long enough to notice it. The only reasoning they provide is that it's not "by the book," which is funny, because whenever I point that out, I'm a smartass. Great workers have been fired in droves for trivialities (if they don't quit of transfer first), only to be replaced by what appear to be the most incompetent people HR can find. If we have half of our skeleton crew taken immediately after lunch on a two-truck day to work water, or something, staying after 1:00 is "finishing the job," not "correcting managerial fuck-ups." The take offense at the latter, by the way.
I think that's enough venting. Oh, and the guy who says he does 10 pallets of break packs in half an hour? Bullshit. A full pallet is 25 boxes; that means that you're sorting over 8 boxes a minute. Even if you don't have to do "one touch" like us, there's no possible way to move that quickly if you're doing it accurately. Unless, of course, your whole crew does break backs at once, in which case you have nothing to bitch about.
What's the point in having a "Lead Unloader" if he doesn't know how to lead or motivate anyone? Yet management doesn't notice or care. They only care about attendance violations and taking an extra 2 minutes on a 15-minute break. All the other unloaders are afraid of me and management won't come near me because I've been unloading trucks for 9 years and still am stronger and faster than all the other unloaders, overnighters, floor associates, etc.
Here's reality on sorting break packs for me; I, alone, without any help whatsoever, can sort three full pallets of break packs in 1 hour. And that includes putting them on the correct pallets.
I don't know about other stores on this, but every year (or two), we get a new one or two unloaders who just stand around talking to their friends through the whole shift, not working. And nothing ever happens to them. They are useless, they don't even try to be fast, even on a rare three-truck night. And then on the next day we all get pulled into the office and get verbal coachings to protect the unproductive unloader from accountability.
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